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Date: 2007-05-22 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
www.brookandbengetmarried.com

They liked Zombie Mob so much, guess what they're doing this year, at the Mob?

I'm still looking for someone who can take a small bouquet and make it look like it was shoved through her heart, only she's wearing a strapless dress.

Date: 2007-05-22 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebreath.livejournal.com
That is soooo awesome! Do you know them?

Date: 2007-05-22 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
Yeh, they're sweet people. Sometimes he'll get together with a few friends and do a gig at someplace like Kimo's, or put a video together. She's the one I'd visit at Dotties' cafe, but now she's working at a small recruiting firm which wants to keep her while in grad school. They were neigbors, but they'd left me (*sob*) for the SOMA. Something about integrating their housing with their beliefs, I think she's going to volunteer to work with tenants in her building, as it's mixed use. (Transitional/elderly/non-transitional)

Date: 2007-05-22 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
For folks on your blog who don't know him, they might want to look up Christopher Hitchens on Youtube, to see why it's so kewl ya'll offering tickets to his gig.

Date: 2007-05-22 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebreath.livejournal.com
I'm holding a grudge with Hitchens about the "women aren't funny" column.

Date: 2007-05-22 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
You mean the one in which he starts off with the premise and then breaks it down, disproving himself in the process and make the point along the way of calling men, stupid? Simply said, it's a well written college essay because it's well cited. Given how much it turns into a slam against male self image, I wonder if he had this cute idea and then talked to half a dozen real women and got himself backed into a bad conversational corner and still had to produce.

Nearly every good bar has a female regular which makes his point, and another which utterly destroys it.

So, it's a straw woman. He lectures and he's pretty spot on, knows his stuff there. But then, what's he to do? An intern? They're usually connected to the college. A bar? Probably not for too long, and that might bring along a bunch of competition, fan boys aren't his thing. But, how about someone who liked what he had to say, he's made a fan in person, but has this column to pick a bone with? Yeh, I'd say that's laid in at least half the states he visits. I'll bet they even laugh it off.



Date: 2007-05-22 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebreath.livejournal.com
Actually, I only read the first page the first time, and it was enough to piss me off. But now I've read it the whole way through, I hate every word of it.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701

I don't read the way you do. What I'm reading is that he's saying women are superior to men in their ability to bear children (but also desperate for men because of it), and because of that women are do not see life as inherently tragic and funny (which I do). And that most funny women are gay or fat or masculine, which is not true at all.

I don't respond well to an evolutionary biology reasoning that excuses men for lame behavior and at the same time puts women at a disadvantage. Not to say I disagree with evolution, but these theories make my skin crawl. Your hips have to measure just so ...

Date: 2007-05-22 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
I think the difference is, you're reading straight through and grading on talking points. My reading comprehension chap book (I'm making this up) says the whole thing is a false start. He's not qualified to make the argument (either as a medical scientist nor as a social scientist) he's making, he knocks over his own arguments and segues to the next part of something he's always wanted to cite or recite in an article and does he wrap it up with solid, unyeilding points of clarification? No.

It's PBS gone astray. One does this sort of thing to get paid, so one can go to the laundry shoppe and order "fluffying." He writes this and I think "receding hairline, paunch, one too many Mimosa brunches without a game of tennis afterwards." I do not think "Well said, sir! Bravo, Insight and plainly spoken, good use of poetry amidst the well laid foundation of pragmatic reason."

Women tell their friends he's funny as away to say "He may not be super cute and it only works sometimes in bed, but he's worth having around." Men don't tell a guy their date is funny, it becomes a challenge to see who can get the ball rolling and she might roll away with him instead.

His point about Jewish humour being strictly the providence of men? Didn't he just beg for a smart, wry, Jewish woman to prove him wrong? I think he's saying he has a good sense of humour and if she drops something just a little bit raunchy, well now, he's a man who will appreciate it & can respond respond both directly and subtly, yes, a man who can take a hint when his chin is tweaked, w/o then spilling his beer and drooling in front of the dinner table.

His whole article just makes him out to be one who would like to talk perhaps of history and men and women, that he's worth approaching for the conversation (& bed.) Yes, like the speech writer in West Wing, we will forgive him his Jewish East Coast deprecations, because really he sees so much else. Bleh.


She will not be ashamed to lead him out of the bar, nor will he give it away to the onlookers when he follows.

Date: 2007-05-22 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebreath.livejournal.com
So basically, your theory is he wrote this so smart women would argue with him, and hopefully get him laid?

I think I get your point now. And Sarah Silverman is a very good counterpoint. She's Jewish, girlish and incredibly lewd.

Date: 2007-05-23 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erg.livejournal.com
I don't think one should excuse men for lame behavior. The disadvantages are being over come; there's a pill coming out to stop ones period (I haven't looked at the side effects list on this.) There's short and long term pills for PMS & PTSD, babies are living even when they come out from someone whose hips were traditionally too small. As for how women see the world, I think that's as varied as humanity has variation. What I do note, is men are more violent and I think there are and should be, more pills taken for that.

Date: 2007-05-23 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebreath.livejournal.com
Then you and I are on the same page. :)

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